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  • Published: 08 May 2018
  • Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe talk NBA. Hear their thoughts on LeBron James and Michael Jordan. Which star had more help?

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  • Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED

    Will LeBron lead the Cavs to the finals?

    • slim509
      slim509  2 weeks back

      He won't lead the Lakers to the playoffs in the west

    • latsirc
      latsirc  2 weeks back

      +Trey Hall are you sure???

    • J S
      J S  1 months back

      Swept

    • D Oz
      D Oz  1 months back

      Sealed Servant of The Most High Power of Israel haha my god were you wrong

    • D Oz
      D Oz  1 months back

      Why does Shannon talk about basketball ever?

  • Lynn Lamdrik
    Lynn Lamdrik  1 days back

    Skip please leave the Goat be Goat, we all know pippen is better then lebron

    • Kuekuatsheu Motley
      Kuekuatsheu Motley  2 days back

      I love that Skip keeps bringing up the facts, and Shannon keeps talking about context...(Cue Allen Iverson: "C'mon Skip, we talking about context...context...")

      • Paul Albert Antonio
        Paul Albert Antonio  2 days back

        Michael Jordan has Ron Harper while Lebron James has JR Smith..

        • Edmond Matitu
          Edmond Matitu  2 days back

          Jordan pippen Rodman only... Lebron wade, boss, ray Allen, Kevin love , Kyrie ,jrSmith,

          • byn bkhyn
            byn bkhyn  2 days back

            Skip bayless: "LeBron shrank against Dallas"
            Shannon Sharpe trying to make Dallas better than they were actually:"Dallas swept the 2 time defending champs...
            sO KObE BryAnT sHank!!!"

            • Anthony Rodriguez
              Anthony Rodriguez  3 days back

              It's funny how those player's didn't mean a thing to Shannon till this topic came up, Shannon needs to put in a resume for LeBrons defense attorney

              • Astin McAlister
                Astin McAlister  3 days back

                Shannon is delusional

                • Joseph Campbell
                  Joseph Campbell  5 days back

                  Yeah the lakers got swept by Dallas that year but Kobe showed up against them but when lebron played them he was no where to be found the whole series

                  • Hash Moncrief
                    Hash Moncrief  5 days back

                    Michael, didn't go to anybody to get help, they brought people to him, LeBron had to go to the great Dwyane Wade to get help LeBron didn't stay in Cleveland, he crawled out and went to Miami to win championships and then crawled back when they had great players there, so LeBron had to go get help to win championships Jordan just stayed in Chicago and help came to him

                    • Emjay Jay
                      Emjay Jay  7 days back

                      Mr. Shannon Sharpe please watch the 1997 NBA Top 50 Ceremony and tell us if Dennis Rodman was being honored in the ceremony. You said MJ played with 2 Top 50 players, but did Rodman ever made it to the Top 50?

                      • Jose Luis Hernandez
                        Jose Luis Hernandez  1 weeks back

                        Ilgaskus and Mo Williams Those were LeBrons all stars in 2 of those years. Skip never give LeBron the nod EVER!

                        • Jason Goodson
                          Jason Goodson  1 weeks back

                          Labron has had more help.

                          • K P
                            K P  1 weeks back

                            Michael made Pippen!

                            • Oliver Torres
                              Oliver Torres  1 weeks back

                              Teams change their offense to adjust to lebron when It should be the other way. You should be able to contribute meaning add to the team not take away. That's why other players play worse with him. Just look at the points his teammates make without him compared to with him.

                              • Oliver Torres
                                Oliver Torres  1 weeks back

                                Lebron's teams are always worse when he leaves because the teams are always geared to run with lebron.

                                • Oliver Torres
                                  Oliver Torres  1 weeks back

                                  Shannon Sharp dont know what he's talking about when it comes to Michael Jordan.

                                  • Oliver Torres
                                    Oliver Torres  1 weeks back

                                    Phil Jackson wasn't considered the great head coach till after he left the bulls and Jordan made Scotty Pippen. Pippen was drafted. Plus Scotty Pippen had so much assist because Michael Jordan was the finisher of the assist even though Michael Jordan was double and triple covered.

                                    • FaiisHD
                                      FaiisHD  1 weeks back

                                      Skip knows nothing about basketball

                                      • Carlos Barrera
                                        Carlos Barrera  1 weeks back

                                        Without MJ's help, Pippen doesn't make the Dream Team, but David Stern knew that would be the ONLY way to get MJ on board. sorry, but it's true.

                                        • Deven TROXSWOL
                                          Deven TROXSWOL  1 weeks back

                                          Dude all stars have nothing to do with having a good supporting cast all stars are just popular players mj had scottie who was a great defender and grant who was a good all around player and he had Rodman who was great at defending and getting boards lebron had wade who was getting worse each year and bosh who was just like there and rebounds then when lebron went back to Cleveland he had kyrie who was a great scorer and that was it and love who played no defense and tried to play stretch forward all in all i rather have mjs supporting cast because they could play defense and offense instead of just offense

                                          Just to clarify i think mj is the goat im not some lebron is the goat dude

                                          • TH3 K1NG43
                                            TH3 K1NG43  1 weeks back

                                            Skip owned Shannon on this one lol

                                            • Rascl Fru
                                              Rascl Fru  1 weeks back

                                              First three championships scottie pippen scared of his own shadow ok but a little bit scared bill Cartwright a trooper lebron dwane wade a killer Udonis Haslam enforcer and made some timely shots in the crunch once Michael figured out how to win you could put Larry Curley and mo with him it wouldn't matter

                                              • Gamesepic123 A 3pt GAWD

                                                help doesn't necessarily mean all star mj had a better supporting cast

                                                • Son Fineto
                                                  Son Fineto  1 weeks back

                                                  All star is overrated Zaza made it for god sakes😂skip is reaching not making all star doesn’t mean you aren’t all star level talent smh😴

                                                  • jordan 777
                                                    jordan 777  1 weeks back

                                                    Letrip ofcourse no question jordan only had one allstar with him who was a real scorer so dennis rodman doesnt count letards.

                                                    • tyler
                                                      tyler  2 weeks back

                                                      Pretty easy and obvious answer. Lebron never had teammates like that.

                                                      • Saxon W
                                                        Saxon W  2 weeks back

                                                        Lebron had more help

                                                        • slim509
                                                          slim509  2 weeks back

                                                          I like how they use points in the LeBron MJ argument that Kobe has an advantage in but leave that out when Kobe enters the conversation

                                                          • slim509
                                                            slim509  2 weeks back

                                                            But I just saw a clip where Shannon said Shaq helped Kobe more but they were only together for three of kobes championships.

                                                            • Ruth Guardado
                                                              Ruth Guardado  2 weeks back

                                                              wow Sharpe?
                                                              you even like it!

                                                              • Don Miguel Arkanghel
                                                                Don Miguel Arkanghel  2 weeks back

                                                                Check your facts before opening your mouth Shannon. Lol

                                                                • Pear Head
                                                                  Pear Head  2 weeks back

                                                                  Skip continuously argues that someone being more clutch in the last 10 sec makes them the better player. One of these days Shannon needs to argue that the other 2870 seconds matter...

                                                                  • Ricky Wei
                                                                    Ricky Wei  2 weeks back

                                                                    It is MJ who made Scottie a hall of famer

                                                                    • latsirc
                                                                      latsirc  2 weeks back

                                                                      Hahaha!!!! Shannon Sharpe is a thousand bundles of EXCUSES!!! Nice Explaination SKIP! as expected to that boytoy of LeExcuses...

                                                                      • Skyler Anderson
                                                                        Skyler Anderson  2 weeks back

                                                                        This is a prime example of how terrible Skip’s arguments are. All star appearances are popularity votes. There is no better way to judge who’s supporting cast was better than to see how they did once MJ or Lebron left that team. Once they leave, it’s ALL on the supporting cast! The bulls were still good after Jordan left.

                                                                        • Beau Brooks
                                                                          Beau Brooks  2 weeks back

                                                                          Skip could of won this argument if he brought anything other than all star games to the table smh

                                                                          • MrStyle23
                                                                            MrStyle23  2 weeks back

                                                                            This is what is not understanding. Yes Scottie Pippen was a great teammate. He was an absolute beast but he was only 1 person. Lebron played with multiple All-Star players. It was Jordan, Pippen and a great supporting cast. Nobody is going to convince me that Ron Harper (after injury), Randy Brown, Bill Willington, Luc Lonely, and Steve Kerr (only good for a open 3) was these great players. They were great role players because they played their role but Lebron has had way more talented players than Jordan has had overall.

                                                                            • Christopher Cano
                                                                              Christopher Cano  1 weeks back

                                                                              The way to see who had more help is to take away mj and lebron and see how that team does without them, Cleveland and Miami didn't do too good, maybe because they didn't help that much so when LBJ leaves of course they struggle, Bulls on the other hand, were still pretty good, because it was a team that actually helped, so when MJ left they could still do good.

                                                                          • drlee2
                                                                            drlee2  2 weeks back

                                                                            I totally believe that Jordan is the G.O.A.T, but Bayless diminishing LeBron's accomplishments is bush league. LeBron carried a trash Cavs team to the Finals last season, including winning 2 series without homecourt advantage. It's hard to win ONE series sans homecourt in the NBA.

                                                                            • Matthew Praay Jr.
                                                                              Matthew Praay Jr.  2 weeks back

                                                                              Shannon has a point Michael always played with the elite defensive Players Dennis Rodman Horace Grant Scottie Pippen Ron Harper Luke Longley the way that team could match up and defend the 95-96 bulls Has never been seen before and never been seen since Michael’s bench was normally better once he started winning for a decade straight the 9596 bowls could beat the Warriors only because Scottie Pippen might be the only man ever that could guard Kevin Durant one on one Michael Jordan would be picking up Steph Curry at Half court Dennis Rodman would eat Draymond Green i’ll live and get him ejected Ron Harper with D up Klay Thompson and on the other end they have no answers for Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen maybe Kevin Durant can guard Scotty but nobody on that team can guard Michael skip needs to stop with all this foolishness LeBron might have flashy names Michael had better teams I think Michael is the goat but we would do well to remember how good the rest of his teams were

                                                                              • MrHoodJones
                                                                                MrHoodJones  2 weeks back

                                                                                Well I mean lebron changes teams every 4 years so

                                                                                • Thinking’Out Loud
                                                                                  Thinking’Out Loud  2 weeks back

                                                                                  We all know the crybaby Kenton had more help..

                                                                                  • Bill B
                                                                                    Bill B  2 weeks back

                                                                                    A jordan team made the playoffs with 30 wins , and another with 38 wins.

                                                                                    3 top 50 players on one team. Including the best man defender in modern time and the best rebounder in modern time. Multiple other allstars and other specialist players like paxon and Kerr (alltime 3pt % leader)

                                                                                    HOF head coach and GM. Consistancy at coach. One of the largest media markets in the world. Played against less Allstars and HOF players than James. Played with more allstar and HOF players than james.
                                                                                    Had hand checks, cross bar checking made it easier for Jordan as a defender and would have allowed James to be a unstoppable force on both sides of the ball.

                                                                                    • Bill B
                                                                                      Bill B  2 weeks back

                                                                                      +William Pitman
                                                                                      Wake up!
                                                                                      Its 1984. There is hand checking, armbars, no zoning, and all the guards are 6'1" (you think that helps or hurts a 6'9" 285# guy like James or not?)

                                                                                      AD, LBJ, Giannis, KD and Jordan are in the draft and we know what we know now.

                                                                                      You're sick if jordan is top 3 in your draft. In 2060 someone will be explaining bigger stronger faster again.

                                                                                    • William Pitman
                                                                                      William Pitman  2 weeks back

                                                                                      Bill B MJ>LBJ

                                                                                  • Alante Cunningham
                                                                                    Alante Cunningham  3 weeks back

                                                                                    When jordan sat out...the bulls won 55 games.
                                                                                    I do not trust any of lebrons former teams up to date, to have won 55 games without lebron james.
                                                                                    its not about the fact that lebron had allstars, but he was equal to those teammates, combined.
                                                                                    its a never ending debate honestly. jordan wasnt good enough at 18 to do what lebron did at 18. thats why he went to college. lebron doesnt have jordans style of play like kobe, however, prime lebron can gaurd 1-5, and play 1-5 on offense with no proble. lebron has 3 rings. mj has twice as many.....BUT! once again...BUT!...Lebron is on track to have the best stats of all time. thats not easy. and if stat padding is that easy, why dont more players do it? ...me personally , i think mj is the goat. thats why lebron wears 23. but lebron is the closest thing to jordan . period. 1-5 positioning, broke damn near every record...3 rings...what else yall need? 11 rings like bill russell? lmao cause bill russell is better than lebron? lmao lebron lived up to his high school hype. wanna know why? cause he has 3 rings, period. and he has records on a stronghold, period. and hes on track to be all time leading scorer. period. and hes even in the g.o.a.t...convo....PERIOD>

                                                                                    • samefem1
                                                                                      samefem1  3 weeks back

                                                                                      No offense I dont like ppl who obsess with Jordan's greatness like he was the only person who truly got it done. That being said on the topic of help, Lebron got help from both Ray Allen and Kyrie each with one of the most clutch game saving shots to win when it really counted, but domeone has to be right.

                                                                                      • Jan Michael Torzar
                                                                                        Jan Michael Torzar  3 weeks back

                                                                                        You see what the stupid shannon did here? He was talkin about all star scottie, then when skip told him how many all star players lebron had, he then went to orlando woolridge ave 23 points

                                                                                        • Christopher Cano
                                                                                          Christopher Cano  2 days back

                                                                                          +Jan Michael Torzar Because he didn't need better players, he already had, not the same case with Lebrons Cavs and Lakers. And you know, you need better players to beat GSW than to beat 98' Utah Jazz or something.

                                                                                        • Jan Michael Torzar
                                                                                          Jan Michael Torzar  2 days back

                                                                                          +Christopher Cano Bro, does that mean that if Lebron is not on the court, that means his teammates are trash? Then he didn't help them improve or be better at all. Just think about this, Jordan is the eternal enemy of Jerry Krause, but he gets to decide who will be the Bulls' players, whether MJ like it or not. He didn't demanded to have all-star players. He even hated Rodman. But he aint the GM so he has to go to whoever is playing with him. Because of his supreme confidence and he knows, whoever his teammates is, he will dominate - not the team, but the entire league. You didn't heard him say "we need better players". Your homie did. That says a lot about your man Lebron.

                                                                                        • Christopher Cano
                                                                                          Christopher Cano  5 days back

                                                                                          +Jan Michael Torzar Bro, when they say a player makes his teammates better, they are saying that their teammates are better when they're ON the court, so you don't even know that.
                                                                                          And even Scottie Pippen even said that Jordan just had to be a scorer because he (Scottie) had to do many things Lebron has to do as a facilitator, so Lebron has to do that and still put up 27+ points a game.

                                                                                        • Jan Michael Torzar
                                                                                          Jan Michael Torzar  5 days back

                                                                                          +Christopher Cano and whos fault is that? Lebron fans always preaching lebron makes his teammates better. They should be good even if lebron left, if that is the case. Jordan left and the bulls still good with only scottie and a bunch if guys. Now who actually did made his teammates better?

                                                                                        • Christopher Cano
                                                                                          Christopher Cano  1 weeks back

                                                                                          MJ had like 2 or 3 top 50 all-time players, do you think K. Love will be a top 50 all-time player?
                                                                                          The way to see who had more help is to take away mj and lebron and see how that team does without them, Cleveland and Miami didn't do too good, maybe because they didn't help that much so when LBJ leaves of course they struggle, Bulls on the other hand, were still pretty good, because it was a team that actually helped, so when MJ left they could still do good.

                                                                                      • Denis Tuohy
                                                                                        Denis Tuohy  3 weeks back

                                                                                        LeBron
                                                                                        Two top 30 pf Bosh and Love who could play extremely well on offense and defense both were top 5 pf while playing with LeBron
                                                                                        D Wade: widely considered the third best shooting guard of all time and second best in the league with LeBron
                                                                                        Kyrie Irving: third or fourth best point guard of his generation. (Curry,Paul,and Westbrook are all arguably better)
                                                                                        Zydrunas: strong two way center and excellent rebounder, profoundly underrated player but extremely talented and could stretch the floor with a solid mid range game.
                                                                                        Shaq: a shell of his former self but still one of the elite centers of the league and still a solid contributor at the time.
                                                                                        Shane Battier: one of the best 3&D players of his generation and had great versatility to compliment the big three

                                                                                        Jordan:
                                                                                        Pippen:top 5 or 6 SF of all time and most likely best of his generation
                                                                                        Rodman: excellent defender and rebounder. Besides rebounding, pretty useless on offense.
                                                                                        Kukoc: an excellent shooter and overall scorer and perennial 6 man of the year candidate
                                                                                        Grant: good rebounder and solid scorer, relentless defenender
                                                                                        Oakley: excellent defender, solid rebounder, decent scorer
                                                                                        Hamilton: the best Wizards player Jordan played with

                                                                                        LeBron has had an elite point guard, a top three all time two guard, one of the best 3&D role players of his generation at either forward position, a top 10 all time PF and a top 30 all time PF, and two elite centers
                                                                                        You can make a very solid starting 5 with Lebron’s help

                                                                                        Jordan: best two defensive players to not play center (Pippen and Rodman) an excellent sixth man, a young off ball player and talented shooter (Hamilton), and solid defensive power forwards (Oakley and Grant)
                                                                                        No elite point guard no elite center

                                                                                        You tell me who had more help

                                                                                        • Christopher Cano
                                                                                          Christopher Cano  1 weeks back

                                                                                          The way to see who had more help is to take away mj and lebron and see how that team does without them, Cleveland and Miami didn't do too good, maybe because they didn't help that much so when LBJ leaves of course they struggle, Bulls on the other hand, were still pretty good, because it was a team that actually helped, so when MJ left they could still do good.

                                                                                          And also contextualize things, to win against GSW with KD you need way more help. Cause you guys wanna talk about all-stars, then talk about how many all-stars their rival teams had.

                                                                                      • joe delps
                                                                                        joe delps  3 weeks back

                                                                                        I mean shannon is saying that Jordan had more help due to the careers that each person had by that logic Lebron played with Shaq for a year and shaq is a top 10 NBA HOF player... you can't go by the careers each person had you have to go by what they did when they were play together

                                                                                        • Christopher Cano
                                                                                          Christopher Cano  1 weeks back

                                                                                          But in the case of Pippen, he made a career in the bulls.